“The Family”: The Osteens
Posted by RazorsKissFeb 5
If you read their doctrinal statement, on their website, you’ll notice what they say.
BELIEVE…
• The Bible is the inspired and only infallible and authoritative Word of God. Salvation
has been provided and is available for people through Jesus Christ. Through His
sacrifice on the cross, we can die to our sinful nature and be born again to a
new life of purity and power.
• Water Baptism is a symbol of the cleansing power of the blood of Christ and a testimony
to our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
• The Baptism in the Holy Spirit, according to Acts 2:4, is given to believers who ask
for it, provides power to live a sanctified and holy life and to be effective
in service to God.
• As children of God, we are overcomers and conquerors and have authority over the
devil and his works.
This sounds great. However, as you’ll come to see, “sounding Biblical” is different than “acting Biblically.”
They even have an answer for why they don’t really present the Gospel, during sermons: “The proclamation of the Gospel comes after individuals have opened their hearts to God and turned from themselves to others. Only then are they truly ready to hear and benefit fully from the Word of the Lord.”
Sounds reasonable, right?
Before every sermon, Joel leads his congregation in the following response:
This is my Bible.
I am what it says I am.
I have what it says I have.
I can do what it says I can do.
Today I will be taught the Word of God.
I boldly confess my mind is alert, my heart is receptive.
I will never be the same.
I am about to receive the incorruptible, indestructible, ever-living seed of the Word of God.
I will never be the same.
Never, never, never.
I will never be the same. In Jesus name.
Amen.
What I have for you is something interesting. My parents went to his Lakewood Church last year. My mother has lymphatic/breast cancer, and was going to Houston’s MD Anderson Cancer Center.
They had heard about how large, and how great Lakewood was. So, they went to visit.
This was in the old building, before they moved to the arena. Outside, there are rows of flags. Inside, there is beautiful granite lobby. For new members, there is a room, with 12-foot ceilings. Very large. On the back wall, is a picture of “The Family”. The recently deceased Pastor John, his wife Dodie. Joel and Victoria. Paul and Jennifer. Kevin and Lisa Comes. (Lisa is John’s daughter). This picture is huge. It covers the entire back wall. The receptionists, the tour guides – they refer to the Osteens as “The Family”.
“The Family”? Hrmm. This sounds a bit Baker-like, doesn’t it?
When they asked about the flags – the 50+ flags outside – they asked: “Are those for the missionaries you support?” In many churches, they put out flags for each country they have missionaries in. The church I grew up in did that. So have several other churches I’ve attended.
The answer? “No… we have some missionaries in those countries. That’s not what they are for”.
Hrmm. Well, Lakewood prides itself in being “multicultural”. Which is fine. Their old building was located in the heart of the Houston ghetto, too. Well, a bad neighborhood, at least.
The tour guide gushed: “When visitors come, “The Family” stand right over there (in the lobby), and meet everyone, and talk to them. She points at a raised dias, well above the rest of the floor. Well, that sounds like putting them up on a pedestal to me. Literally.
Joel is the former media pastor of the church. Image, and marketing is where he comes from. Inside the sanctuary, there are riding camera pods set into the roof, which can zoom down, around, and everywhere, to film the services. The choir risers come up out of the floor. The band is arranged around a spinning globe of the world, to one side. They have Cindy Cruse-Ratcliff, Israel Houghton (or, if you prefer: here), and Marcos Witt to lead their worship. As a Music Director’s son, I can tell you – that’s an impressive lineup. She says so, as well.
But, now we come to doctrine.
“Listen folks, most of you here are born again Christians. But what I want to say to you is this is when you share your faith, don’t talk about the preacher, don’t talk about the church, talk about the fact that their sins have already been forgiven. That’s the good news. Listen; don’t dangle people over the fires of hell. Lisa and I always kid about you know we’re going to dangle them over the fires of hell. Listen, that doesn’t draw people to God. They know what kind of life they live. They know how bad they’ve lived. What you’ve got to do is talk about the goodness of God. Listen, it’s the goodness of God that brings people to repentance. It’s the goodness of God.”
That quote can be found here. This is his easter sermon.
Wait, wait… can I get a comparison to Jonathan Edwards? Anyone? Please, feel free to contribute.
*sigh*
I don’t want to judge, Joel, though. I want to point out two things.
1. He DOES preach Jesus. He mentions Jesus quite a bit, and he DOES say that Jesus is the savior, and that there are sins to be saved of. He gives the gospel – at least in some of his online sermons. Ok? He is NOT the antichrist, and he is not “our worst enemy”.
2. HOWEVER. His church, and much of his message are much, much, MUCH too man-centered. It is NOT repentance oriented. It is NOT “go, and sin no more” oriented. It is NOT spiritual meat. It is spiritual milk, being preached to thousands of spiritual babes. Because he doesn’t preach meat, he never creates spiritual adults. He keeps his thousands in their spiritual infancy.
THAT is what is dangerous. If he will not stand for doctrinal meat, if he skips over doctrinal “hard topics”, and he fails to teach, and only exhorts on a superficial level – he is failing in his calling. To teach the word of God, you need to rightly divide the Word of Truth. Which, incidentally, means dividing all of it. If he skips the meat, and stays with the milk, he will create a generation of spiritual infants, who teach other spiritual infants. Never will they grow up, and be “equipped” to fight the battle against the “principalities, and powers of this world”.
This is a problem. Joel, as I read him, definitely preaches the Bible. Unfortunately – he is too centered on himself, on “the power of thinking”, and on “faith healing”. Too much concentration on “the power of faith”. When my mother, who I mentioned was in Houston to be treated for cancer, arrived at this church – they gave her a pamphlet with detailed how she could be “miraculously healed”. Needless to say, friends – she was very, very upset. The receptionist prayer over her, and kept pushing on her back, as if she was supposed to “fall over in the Lord”.
Come now. I understand they are charismatic – but… skipping doctrine, encouraging man-centric theology/teaching, and promoting faith healing just is NOT mainline Evangelical thought. It’s not even left-leaning Evangelical thought.
He would be classified as a “charismatic” pastor, in my humble opinion. In no way should he be considered necessarily “Evangelical”, or even remotely so. He downplays too many fundamentals, and exalts too many man-centric concepts, despite the fact that he does preach, nominally, from the Bible.
So… that’s my story. And I’m sticking to it.
If you read this Joel… I love ya. But please… preach more doctrine, and less fluff, man.
11 comments
Comment by Scotwise on February 6, 2005 at 7:55 pm
I liked this article and I believe what you said is fair comment. I have watched Joel a number of times here in Australia and there is something that doesn’t sit right in my spirit. However, the church is huge and sometimes we don’t get the big picture from TV or in the case of your Mum, just one visit. In my experience with mega –churches is that they engage in the fundamental doctrines in other ways, i.e. Cells, etc; God bless you and yours and I am praying for your Mum.
Comment by Rey on February 6, 2005 at 11:09 pm
“The Family” does sound really creepy though. yeesh.
Comment by Funky Dung on February 7, 2005 at 3:13 pm
Is it just me, or does anyone else hear a resemblence to Stuart Smalley (from SNL)? 😉
The “This is my Bible” bit also reminds me of the “This is my gun” bit in Full Metal Jacket
Comment by George Ohieng on August 12, 2005 at 3:30 am
This is simply a case of HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL COLLEGE BASKETBALL AND THE NBA. JOEL OSTEEN is in the NBA The message is the same but the style different. Coaches in the NBA deal little with fundamentals, yet thousands watch and attend the NBA games. My question to Osteen critics is this.. is the NBA basketball or not? Most high school coaches and college coaches will not approach coaching like phil collins. thats the reason why bobby knight and coach wooden would never succeed in NBA. NOT ALL THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT ARE SIMILAR AND NOT ALL PASTORS MUST BE SEMINARIANS.. Joel esteen should be lauded for relevance and imputing christ in a world full or empty positive thinkers. When the Bible declares that nothing is impossible with God and Joel echoes themsame..it manifests in his life and that to me is faith. GIVE THIS GUY A BREAK!
Comment by RazorsKiss on August 12, 2005 at 9:18 am
I’m sorry, but I truly fail to see the connection between a sporting event, and the preaching of the Word.
The mission of the pastor is to preach the Gospel, and to rightly divide the Word of Truth. He does neither.
No, the message is not the same. If a coach, to use your analogy, simply gives his team a “motivational speech” every time they go out – is he really coaching?
I think not. For a preacher of God’s Word, there is even less leeway for such “motivational speaking”. His job is to teach his flock the fundamentals, and to improve on those fundamentals by encouraging the proper usage of those fundamentals in everyday life. A coach is a teacher. You do not cease to learn when you enter the pros. The teaching gets MORE advanced, not LESS.
The message is NOT the same. It is motivational speaking, without even a veneer of teaching. He feeds them not just milk, but SKIM milk. A pastor’s role is teaching. Your analogy is not only faulty, it’s misapplied. If he were a coach in the NBA, he would be not ONLY teaching (and that teaching would be above and beyond the type of teaching at the college level), he would be involved in strategy, and in advanced tactics required for a successful CHRISTIANITY. Not for being prosperous” – the goal is not to be wealthy, but to be PERFECT. Perfection does not come about through motivation. It comes about through an increasing depth and quality of relationship with our Lord and Savior. If this is what is sacrificed, in order to make his flock “feel good” about themselves, and “become successful” – he has abandoned the Gospel, and thus, his mission.
Because they are being entertained. Our goal is not to entertain. It is to become more like Christ, and bring others to Him. This is the “fundamental” problem with “showbiz” Christianity. It’s not about Christ. It’s about being “stars”, and about being successful IN THE WORLD. We are not called to be successful, although this may happen. We are called to be MORE LIKE CHRIST.
Sure. However, what is understood is that the players in the NBA ALREADY KNOW the fundamentals – and are at a higher level of talent and education (in the game). However, the coach’s role is to teach strategy, not fundamentals, in the NBA. An Osteen-like so-called ministry does neither. It simply sells tickets to the show, and tells you you can be just like all of those NBA stars if you can think positively. It totally skips any pretense of teaching the fundamentals altogether. It is not out to teach players how to play – it is to tell you how to get rich quick, like the NBA stars are rich.
This is neither here nor there, and has nothingto do with coaching of any kind. It’s like saying that the PR department of the team is selling shoes and team merchandise – and that this, somehow, is what coaching is.
However, there is NO coach who thinks his job is to tell you how to “think positively”, or “be successful”. They teach you how to play, and how to WIN. Winning, in the Christian life, is NOT about being “successful” in the area of your pocketbook, or anywhere else.
“Winning” is becoming LIKE CHRIST. If a pastor teaches anything else, he is NOT DOING HIS JOB.
However, all teachers MUST have the gift of teaching. All prophets (in the true sense of prophecy) must have the gift of prophecy. To teach, you must be ABLE TO TEACH. If you are able, you MUST DO SO. Remember, James says this:
“Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.”
They have a standard to uphold. This standard. Click to read it. That is what a preacher is called to do.
THAT is exactly what HE DOES. The “power of positive thinking” is NOT THE GOSPEL. Prosperity is NOT THE GOSPEL. Success is NOT THE GOSPEL.
Nothing is impossible WITH GOD. If you don’t preach on how to be HOLY like God, and preach about how to be SUCESSFUL with God, insted, you’re so far off the mark it’s pitiful. THAT is the problem. He doesn’t *teach*, he doesn’t *preach the gospel*, and he doesn’t *evangelize*. He does NOTHING a pastor/preacher is supposed to do. He just markets a “be successful with this ten step plan” pseudo-gospel. It’s NOT ENOUGH.
When he starts teaching, preaching, or evangelizing, sure. Until then – no.
Comment by Sara on December 3, 2005 at 11:39 pm
I think this is a very interesting analysis. I attended Lakewood Church from 1993 through 2004 when I graduated and moved to Austin. As a person who grew up in that church I had a very interesting view of all of the transitions that occured. I’m not sure that you are exactly qualified to make some of the statements that yo made about the church. And this is not an insult at you, it’s just you simply haven’t been there long enough to get a complete picture. I will agree that the messages are pretty watered down and truthfully very basic. It almost sounds as if Joel is a broken record that says the same thing every Sunday. However, I think that Joel is at a very interesting point in his leadership of the church. I don’t think that anybody here has taken into account that previous to this he didn’t have any pastoral background and after John Osteen died Paul was the most logical choice to takeover, however Joel did, he went from behind the camera to in front of it. Just as Lakewood has emerged into a new era and is essentially like a baby church, so is Joel Osteen and his teaching. As he grows into this new role as pastor so will his teaching increase. Now for people that have been at Lakewood for a while, or who are just strong christians, there are classes that really teach you about the word and the power of God. Everyone can use encouragement every now and then. Now, I’m not saying that everything within that church is wonderful, or even where it should be, but I believe that it is reaching out to those that it needs to reach out to. And you may not be that person, but then again, on the right day, you might.
Comment by EBONY on December 4, 2005 at 11:59 am
I DISAGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE SAID, AND ITS SAD THAT YOU WOULD WRITE SOMETHING LIKE THIS ABOUT A MAN THAT STANDS ON THE WORD OF GOD. I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE JOEL ESTEEN DELIVIRING THE WORD OF GOD HAS MADE IN MY LIFE, I CAN SEE THE SPIRITUAL GROWTH IN ME THAT HAS OCCURED. THATS WHY I SAY TO YOU WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR OPINIONS, AND THATS WHAT YOUR ARTICLE IS AN OPINION, JUST AS MY COMMENT IS JUST AN OPINION. I AM CONFIDENT THAT JOEL ESTEEN COULD CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT HIM AND HE IS PROBALY PRAYING FOR YOU AT THIS TIME. IN LIFE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEONE WAITING IN THE WINGS TO CRITICIZE SOMEONE THAT IS DOING SO MUCH GOOD, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE GODS FAVOR YOU DONT CONCERN YOURSELF WITH MAN’S THOUGHTS. I DO WISH YOU WELL. GOD BLESS
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Comment by gail on February 5, 2006 at 5:24 pm
I understand where you’re coming from regarding the lack of Biblical teaching, but I feel Joel has another God given purpose. Most anyone can “teach” the Gospel, but Joel has the God given talent of making others see the good in themselves – when they can’t see it. I suffer from depression, panic disorder, and psychosis. I have tried to take my life twice. Listening to Joel the few times I have, has made a big impact in my life. I no longer feel worthless and unloved. I now feel like I have hope that I can do and will do what God has intended for me all along. I’m a stronger Christian – and Southern Baptist – because of him. I feel strongly that bringing people up so they can worship the Lord and go out tell other about Him is his gift. I feel this so strongly that I have taped two of the services for my 25 yr old son to watch. He also suffers from depression and a lack of self esteem. It’s my prayer that Joel’s message will reach him as it did me.
Comment by joan on April 9, 2006 at 2:35 pm
We (members of the Body of Christ) are (all, each and every one of us) lively (living, growing, maturing) stones (comprising the habitation of God), fitly joined together by that which every joint supplies. Each stone can be likened to the stones in the ephod. When seen from afar the ephod shone as one. Up close, individuality could be seen.
We each reflect that portion of God that He has chosen to reveal to us as an individual. Collectively, we have the fullness of Him. Individually, we can ‘comfort with the comfort we have received’ by reflecting who He is in us. We can only share what we’ve been given. As for Mr. Osteen, let him teach, exhort and encourage in the manner the Lord leads him.
Let’s unite against our common enemy, instead of fighting against other members of the Body. Remember, a house divided…….
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